Two KH's in my area have disbanded and KH 's sold in the last two yrs . Those are just the ones I personally know about . Silvis ,IL and Princeton ,IL.
troubled mind
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Branch offices in Europe are closing
by Samuel Thorsen ini have from a safe source that the bethel branch office in austria, ireland, italy and switzerland are closing down in the near future.
most of the business will be taken care of from the german bethel.
nothing is said thru official channels yet, but there is no reason to doubt my source.. can anyone tell more about this topic?.
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I can't believe how many people are leaving now...
by mac n cheese in(sorry if this is a double post - i haven't been on in awhile).
so spouse and i are completely inactive.
it's great!
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troubled mind
This was encouraging to hear . i would love to know what advice you are giving .....
I just had a conversation with a couple the other night . The husband has never been a witness and the wife was recently reinstated . I still have open communication with her ,but want to be careful what I say so as not to push her away . She came back in to gain back family relationships ,but she has had her eyes opened ,and I don't think she is a complete believer anymore . Just wish I could be of encouragement to her . It has to be hard to keep your foot in the door enough to please family ,and yet be true to your own self .
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How do people that are reinstated overcome the resentment
by troubled mind inwhat if you were df'd for along time ,say over 10 yrs ,and you were totally shunned by family that whole time .
do you ever come to terms with the resentment of how family treated you ?
has anyone here successfully got back in just to gain family ,and then faded or never got active after that ?
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troubled mind
Thank You for your respnose 'New Light' , that was the kind of insight I was looking for .
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How do people that are reinstated overcome the resentment
by troubled mind inwhat if you were df'd for along time ,say over 10 yrs ,and you were totally shunned by family that whole time .
do you ever come to terms with the resentment of how family treated you ?
has anyone here successfully got back in just to gain family ,and then faded or never got active after that ?
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troubled mind
The situation I am talking about is a person well aware the Society is NOT God's precious little gem . They also know the little games that must be played in order to get back in good graces . I am sure they know better than to reveal their true feelings to the Elders .
Clearly they are hurt by the shunning family applied to them ........How does the reinstated one ever get over that hurt or do they ?
LongHair Gal , I was refering to the reinstated one having resentment ,not other people towards them .
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How do people that are reinstated overcome the resentment
by troubled mind inwhat if you were df'd for along time ,say over 10 yrs ,and you were totally shunned by family that whole time .
do you ever come to terms with the resentment of how family treated you ?
has anyone here successfully got back in just to gain family ,and then faded or never got active after that ?
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What if you were df'd for along time ,say over 10 yrs ,and you were totally shunned by family that whole time . Do you ever come to terms with the resentment of how family treated you ?
Has anyone here successfully got back in just to gain family ,and then faded or never got active after that ? Did family still associate ?
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Emotional Blackmail alive and well among JWs.....
by troubled mind inlast night i was delighted to meet up with an old friend from my jw past .. she has been df'd for over 12 yrs and moved faraway from this area most of that time .
her jw parents took the hard line with her ,and have had little or no contact this whole time .. she was df'd as a teenager ,now she is a successful career professional .
she did not like living with this df label hanging over her head .
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troubled mind
Last night I was delighted to meet up with an old friend from my JW past .
She has been Df'd for over 12 yrs and moved faraway from this area most of that time . Her JW parents took the hard line with her ,and have had little or no contact this whole time .
She was df'd as a teenager ,now she is a successful career professional . She did not like living with this df label hanging over her head . She told me last night she was recently reinstated.... Mainly so she can freely speak with her parents ,and resolve unfinished business from her past.She does not plan on letting them back into her life freely and completely .....it just hurts her to much to know what they are capable of doing . Yet she is willing to give them a chance in order to have a some what normal family relation.
We discussed how sad it is that parents can turn their natural affection off like a switch because of some words from a group of Elders . I explained it as emotional blackmail .
Honestly how can these parents really believe their child will gladly come running into their cold frozen hearts after leaving her on her own all this time . It is delusional on their part to believe it was their hard stance that turned her back into 'loving Jehovah'...........It is only blackmail plain and simple . Force your loved one to do something they don't really want to do just so they can have your attention again .
It just sickens me .....
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The Greatest Lesson the Watchtower Ever Taught Me
by jamiebowers inthe greatest lesson that the watchtower has taught me is to give the love that has been taken from me.
our mother shuns my brother and me to the extreme.
just this morning she told me on the phone from her hospital bed that we will have to learn her diagnosis through the grapevine.. she wasn't always like this.
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troubled mind
Inspiring post Jamie ,thank you for sharing .
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For those still "in" for whatever reason, how long did it take you to disconnect from the things you were taught?
by Crisis of Conscience ini'm coming up on a year of when i first "woke up" regarding the org.
i still am "in" because i am trying to weigh out my options.
my wife is still mentally "in" and i know way to many people.
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troubled mind
Gosh I almost forgot what that was like ....being 'awake' ,but still going to meetings .
Your comments made me remember how it was for me several yrs ago . I was mentally done with the Witnesses ,but my adult /teenage kids and Husband were all Witnesses .I said nothing ,continued going to meetings ,but felt terrible stress mentally and emotionally .I was mad inside all the time .
Every convention or assembly I would become so angry when I heard the talks telling young people to fore go college for pioneering . I became more aware of how the talks were glorifying the GB instead of Jesus . I would look around and think 'come on people don't any of you see the manipulations going on here ?'
I honestly did think it was just me ....then I found this site ! OMG do you know what a relief it was to find other people that were thinking the same things ???
After joining this site and reading COC and a few other books (Dr Phil's "Self-Matters ") I found the courage to make the decision to stop going anymore . (It was a scary move to make because our whole family were JW.) My two older sons had moved away from home ,and our youngest made it clear he no longer wanted to attend meetings . (after being unfairly treated by the Elders) I finally had ,had enough .....so after a Sunday meeting I told my husband I was no longer going to attend meetings . He was shocked and for about a week he wouldn't talk to me . He thought I was ending our marriage ...after I explained that was NOT the case, and told him I just could no longer stand the hypocrisy of the religion . He just stopped attending too . It took another two yrs before I started revealing the major problems within the religion to him . He still has never made an attempt to investigate for himself ......but I don't hold anything back from him now about what I think about how and what we had been taught all these yrs . (Baptized over 30 yrs)
Here we are almost five yrs out ,and now all of our sons and daughter in law have faded too . There has been loss of course . It is hard that his some of his family has pulled away from us, as well as my brother 's family .But we have our immediate family intact .
So give it time do it however works best for you ,but know it is possible !
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New elders' manual - a few more details
by sir82 inper a recent boe letter:.
-- new manual will be softcover.
-- elders can keep their old elder manual if they choose.
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troubled mind
ouuu I like brazen ......I shall now liked to be referred to as ' that Brazen ,Brassy ,Blonde bomb -shell '......
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How do I tell my elderly JW mother that...?
by onemore inmy wife asked me last night: how do i tell my mother that we have been living a lie?
then she said: she is in her 70s, all of her friends are jws, she has a routine, things to do that keeps her busy every day, field service, meetings, visiting her jw friends, assemblies, etc.
why spoil that to her?
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troubled mind
I would not rock their world other than to explain to them you have come to a different conclusion than them about the religion . If they are happy and have no doubts then I see no reason in tipping the apple cart . It will only cause bad feelings between you and them if they are not in a mental readiness to accept what they believe may not be true .
I would be more concerned with reassuring them of your love and support . Once they realize you are inactive they may get the impression from others that you are now on a road to a destructive lifestyle ....make sure they know by your actions this is not so .
Trying to presuade them to come to the same conclusions as yourself is unrealistic and could backfire badly for your continued relationship . Nuture the family ties and let the rest of the story unfold slowly and naturally .
Good luck ...don't rush anything